Singer Jill Scott has considered leaving the United States to protect her 11-year-old son from growing up while Black in America. 

While police violence is one of the country’s leading causes of death, Black men are significantly more likely to be killed by police. 

Black Americans are 2.5 times more likely to die at the hands of law enforcement, and a study showed that one in 1,000 Black men are expected to be killed by police. 

Scott appeared on journalist Jemele Hill’s podcast Unbothered in July and said sometimes the thought of raising a Black child in the U.S. is terrifying. 

“It doesn’t matter if you have or if you don’t. All that matters is that you’re brown,” Scott said. 

She talked about her son turning 12 next year, and that he’ll want a car a few short years after that. 

“Just to know that he’ll be on the road, just to know that he’ll be away from people who love him in a world that will decide whether he’s guilty of something because he’s brown — that’s terrifying,” the Grammy Award winner said. “It makes me consider leaving this place often. We talk about it a lot as a family.” 

Turns out, Scott has done her research on Holland, a region on the western coast of the Netherlands. 

She noted the great healthcare, education and food, and was impressed by its diversity of languages and freedom of expression. 

“They’re chilling,” said Scott, who currently lives in Nashville, Tenn., and added that if it doesn’t work out there, it may be time to go. “There’s other things that you have to deal with but there’s certain things you don’t have to deal with in other countries, in specific other countries.”